{"id":1083,"date":"2006-12-31T00:55:05","date_gmt":"2006-12-31T04:55:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/?p=1083"},"modified":"2006-12-31T00:57:25","modified_gmt":"2006-12-31T04:57:25","slug":"no-need-to-get-into-sexism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/2006\/12\/no-need-to-get-into-sexism\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;No need to get into sexism&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So I&#8217;m sitting in a F\/OSS channel this morning and someone joins:<\/p>\n<p>&lt;nickChanged&gt; hello dudes<\/p>\n<p>Now it&#8217;s possible that this person just wanted to greet the men in the channel, so I asked:<\/p>\n<p>&lt;pleia2&gt; What, no greeting for the ladies?<\/p>\n<p>A quick exchange follows, in which the fellow apologizes and another fellow (who I know) pipes up and says &#8220;Well you&#8217;re not usually here!&#8221; &#8230;as if I&#8217;m the only female ever to enter that channel. In fact, however, one of the channel ops is female.<\/p>\n<p>And then we get the fellow who pipes up and says: &#8220;No need to get into sexism&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I couldn&#8217;t resist.<\/p>\n<p>&lt;pleia2&gt; sorry, I just feel left out when people join channels and say &#8220;hey dudes\/gentlemen\/fellas&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the truth. The first F\/OSS channel I was in regularly had this problem and I quickly became known as &#8220;that feminist who would always call people on it&#8221; &#8211; of course since I&#8217;m friendly with the main devs it was never something <i>bad<\/i> it was more of a &#8220;snicker, that guy just joined the channel and said &#8216;hello gentlemen&#8217; &#8211; pleia2 is gonna get him!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But I never much liked having that label, that&#8217;s what sticks even though I&#8217;ve made contributions to the project. But if I wasn&#8217;t going to pipe up and say something, who would? How else are we supposed to change this?<\/p>\n<p>Of course I don&#8217;t think these men are intentionally saying &#8220;hey dudes\/gentlemen\/fellas&#8221; because they want women to feel excluded, they simply assume women aren&#8217;t in these channels. Indeed, many women who have survived in F\/OSS IRC have doneso by taking gender-neutral nicks and not otherwise exposing their gender, and I don&#8217;t blame them, but this makes us much less visible.<\/p>\n<p>I keep hoping that one of these days every tenth knucklehead joining a F\/OSS channel won&#8217;t spew some masculine greeting, but until then I&#8217;ll still be &#8220;that feminist who calls people on it&#8221; from time to time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I&#8217;m sitting in a F\/OSS channel this morning and someone joins: &lt;nickChanged&gt; hello dudes Now it&#8217;s possible that this person just wanted to greet the men in the channel, so I asked: &lt;pleia2&gt; What, no greeting for the ladies? A quick exchange follows, in which the fellow apologizes and another fellow (who I know) [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1083","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1083","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1083"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1083\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1083"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1083"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/princessleia.com\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1083"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}